As you might imagine, projecting ball flight accurately from the first eight feet of launch is a lot trickier than when you get to see more of the actual ball flight. For longer sessions, especially when using video features, battery drain can be an issue. All you need is a full charge and an iPad to take to the range. Hey, drop me a line at [emailprotected]. The indoor hit into net is only supported on a set of I-phones that does not include the new 12s or new SE and not every I-pad. Not sure why but according to some comments on forums seems to be related to the fps of the front camera of the device, different iOS device have different fps rate preventing certain features on certain devices. I have to disagree on the Rapsodo. I imagine Rapsodo is going to have an edge on the future since you are aligned with smartphone camera tech. I was hoping to get more thoughts on why the MEVO plus did worse in most categories than the smaller MEVO. Works great. a thinner and lighter design than previous models, the ability to display the full trajectory of any shot, from short to long clubs, the ability to connect up to six external cameras for additional recording angles, the ability to organize your data and observe trends, a personal Consider buying used if youre on a budget. If the hole or range youre trying to capture data and just so happens to be directly in the sunlight you cannot use it. But overall is very accurate considering the price! The Rapsodo is a small compact unit that packs a punch. Should have mentioned that Rapsodo requires an iPhone or iPad and that Android users need not apply. It worked some of the newer versions. Otherwise youre hitting out of a divot and the data will not be consistent. If youre looking for club head data, offline and dispersion numbers, you might want to look at the enterprise solutions like ForeSight and Trackman. Such as when the ground is muddy and wet and so is the ball??? I live in Florida, and trying to use the rapsodo on the range doesnt work- my phone will overheat and turn off with too much direct sunlight. We are here to help educate and empower golfers. Starting in 2020. Those leaning towards a more affordable launch monitor indoors need at least eight feet of flight distance before the ball hits the impact net. Why would all the Voice Caddie instruments be so different in their accuracy? The ESB1 connects to your device over Bluetooth which only takes a few seconds. Essentially considering these devices were being compared to each other while using the gc quad for the baseline. The numbers that are mentioned in that video are below: club used: 7-iron Outdoor Shot 1 comparison. If hitting into a net, PRGR is good for smash factor to help measure good ball strike/efficiency. Is this with only 8 ft of flight to the net? I understand there were knocks against Skytrak for having difficulty in direct sunlight but other than that what makes Mevo+ rank higher? 2 odel S-1 and odel S-144S Selecone oand nits Warranty - Seller warrants all goods for five years on parts and 2-1/2 years on labor, under the following conditions and exceptions: Seller warrants that all goods of Seller's manufacture will conform to any descriptions SkyTrak offers some fitting capabilities and the bag-mapping feature (also available in the Rapsodo MLM) is impressive. Lee I have the Mevo, and it works great, for what it is. Indoors, however, you will get good numbers for initial launch direction (left/right); combining this with ball speed will give you an idea of whether you have cut across the ball and whether the club face is open or closed.. Best would be to see your outdoor shot shapes and know your ball speeds and launch directions for your typical good and bad shots to use as a comparison to the indoor data.. Then show everyone your data for what products are really the best. The enterprise stuff is expensive really expensive. SkyTrak can be used outdoors, not sure where you got your info. Ernest Sports is a brand owned by Ernest Sports Inc., and the item model number is ESB1. If youre looking to improve your understanding of the data associated with your game, like ball speed, clubhead speed and carry, and not break the bank, models like the SC200 Plus, Rapsodo, and Mevo Plus are reasonably accurate. How does it do at extremely cold temps close to freezing? As the category suggests, camera-based launch monitors use high-definition cameras to measure ball data at, and immediately following, impact. We do this often at events and trade shows. They are all fairly good but the best use is for say comparing your Mizuno 8 iron to maybe Callaway 8 iron or similar head to head. My range is free of shade most days. I may be blinded by the fact that I really desire spin rate data. Portable Golf launch monitor SC300 Frequently bought together + Total price: Add both to Cart These items are shipped from and sold by different sellers. Six to eight feet of ball flight is just not enough for us to optically provide an accurate shot trace. Is L.A.B. For reason, I remember RAPSODO was for outdoor only. 2. odel S-1 and odel S-144S Selecone oand nits. ), trying to find optimum launch angles, taking note of clubhead speed and ball speed for a certain kind of swing, and then seeing how changes i make affect the outcomes of shots. Please re-test this review is bogus, otherwise. I got a Mevo+ during lockdown and it does a pretty solid job in the back yard net setup. Our tech uses a combo of a radar in the MLM unit plus the camera on your phone. Coming soon. So basically if you completely ignore the Mevo+ spin rates, its on par with the Rapsodo., but because they try to spit out a number, they get penalized. Hope this helps. Personal golf launch monitors are the Holy Grail for the average golfer looking to improve. The Rapsodo has definitely caught my eye as a gadget Id like to get, mainly due to the shot tracer. Didnt realize how much I would like the fact that it films your swings. Golf launch monitors are a part of nearly every fitting experience but dont expect to fit yourself with a consumer-grade unit. At the $500 price point, the most accurate unit we tested provides enough data points to help you improve and understand your game. The only real negative is the price. Ive got Arccos, and ive had it tracking me for about 90 rounds, so ive already got a good idea about my distances. Most monitors guess at carry distance based on the measured items above. Should I be looking at the ones for inside or outside? Please send me one of those god-awful custom head covers you have to cheer me up! I tried for a month to get a reading indoors, following all the suggestions from the troubleshooting team. Irons and wedges hit directly off the grass create dirt and grass particles from the divots that can make for inconsistent shot capture. If youre only going to hit a few dozen balls at a time, battery life may not be relevant. Well done as always. I have a high launch amd the readings were very off for anything less then a 5i. The VC SC 200 tells me everything I need to know as an under 10 index amateur andIt cost less than 300$ new on Amazon ! I use my skytrak with my Samsung phone and tablet everyday. If something is off by 1-3 yards I dont care. Thx Live in the NE so Ill be indoors hitting for 4-5 months. For those who are looking for a Personal Launch Monitor that can provide data to get dialed in, the SkyTrak is the one for you. Scott the new PRGR (HS-130A) picks up my wedges with no problem. The only downside is that the AA battery life is kind of limited. Given that many of the best players in the world use these devices to drive both equipment and on-course decisions, its understandable that average golfers would be hungry to do the same. Multiple data metrics for added knowledge, Robust software package with best-in-class visuals. I have a Mevo+ for my own personal enjoyment. Appreciate your comment on the back camera; we felt that the swing/tracer video was critical to the user experience so we needed to use the front camera. If youre splitting time between indoor and outdoor use, consider FlightScopes Mevo or Mevo Plus. Anyone have suggestions, I'm looking at Swing Caddie SC300 vs Garmin G80 which would serve a dual purpose, but might not have the data of the former. There are significant functional differences. The Rapsodo has launch angle and is displayed on the features chart. Art. @Art Chou Does Rapsodo plan to add multiple video angle capabilities like Mevo captures? Which, on a range, is difficult. As an IOS user, I have no real issue with the Rapsodo taking the top spot and being IOS only. Overall it is a unit for inside to ensure consistent, reliable data. Otherwise youre hitting out of a divot and the data will not be consistent. Less expensive consumer-grade units like the Voice Caddie SC200 Plus and the Rapsodo have smaller Doppler units that dont quite track the full flight of the golf ball. If your plan is to use a personal launch monitor to gain performance insights while banging limited flight, beat to hell, or generally inconsistent range balls, you're wasting both your time and money. Yes I know that the 3001B loses the LED lighting, chrome finish on the panel with the power and eject buttons, and gets a smaller fan. For the easiest of setups, both Voice Caddie SC300, Voice Caddie SC300i and SC200 Plus get you practicing in no time. All of the devices we tested provide Ball Speed, Club Head Speedand Carry Distance. I have tried everything, including the suggestions on their website, so it must be an issue for others as well. He also confirmed that recording swing videos drains the battery big time. The latest version has a higher-quality dual radar sensor, an improved processor and algorithm to increase accuracy, a larger, high-resolution display and improved wedge measurement (especially on higher-lofted shots) to capture more shots, as well as the ability to switch between yards and meters. The price range for the units we tested ranged from under $200 to just under $2,000. MGS probably didnt use the metallic dots that are supplied with the MEVO+. I would agree that grass and divots etc could cause issues, but if hitting off a mat there should be no problem. It offers many more data metrics compared with most personal launch monitors. This isnt a scenario about the difference between a Mercedes or Kia. If you use the dots the spin number accuracy increases dramatically. For $2000 I think Mevo+ at the moment is the closet well get to the high priced model. The ESB1 is great if you like to tinker with your bag setup. Butaccording to the results of our test there are accurate units. While consistent readouts 60 yards and under is an area in need of improvement, you can still derive some short game data from personal launch monitors. Foresight is trusted by the R&D teams at every major golf equipment company and is renowned for the accuracy of the data it provides. Only one device scored over 90% accuracy in all five categories. This will pay for itself in a couple of seasons. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); I hit into a net outside. The PRGR is great for gapping your clubs as well and it is easy to carry along and use anytime. I dont have the room for a Rhapsodo due to feet required beyond the hitting area for the Dopler technology, but the SkyTrak only needs a few feet beyond the hitting area. Both are about $2,000 for the basic unit and work well indoors (the SkyTrak requires less room and so is a more versatile alternative for varying indoor spaces, although with both there is the. Well done gents! Oh and it comes with a shot tracer to see your shot direction. Clouds are also infrequent most days from may through October. Other metrics produced by each unit are detailed in the chart below. Is it only carry distance? I dont understand how the SC200+ can be accurate for driver (and higher than the SC300) with no spin information and limited flight. Im happy i made the roughly $500 jump, and the only regret i have is wishing id done it sooner :). If youre looking for club head data, offline and dispersion numbers, you might want to look at the enterprise solutions like ForeSight and Trackman. However, real spin measurements come at a cost. Lithium-ion battery. Its pretty much the only option in the <= $2k range if you want simulator capabilities outdoors. We get excellent spin.numbers optically in our Skytrak units (we make them for SkyGolf) but the components require the higher retail price. The phone overheating is a real issue that I wish was discussed on the review. SkyTrak and Mevo Plus provide the most data metrics to help you with your game. How can this be called the best when more than half the customers cant even access it? SkyTrak. Good article on the considerations @ https://mygolfsimulator.com/using-skytrak-outside/ Some calculate clubhead speed, etc and others measure it, etc. Would you want to base you bag on 60 86% accuracy? Enterprise radar launch monitors like TrackMan and FlightScope X3 feature larger Doppler radars which are capable of tracking a golf ball over its entire flight. The last few firmware updates fixed a lot of the issues with short game stuff.. The SC300 goes in depth with metrics as well. Also battery life is an issue- using it on the range for an hour and then trying to get a round with arccos wont happen, the battery on my phone will be dead before I finish. The best launch monitors for outdoor use are the SC300iand the Rapsodo for under $500. Its also nice in how readily easy it is to get set up and in use. I'm wondering the differences between the later 2500 and 3000 models. The SkyTrak provides more data points for you to dial in your game. That being said, the Garmin G80 looks like it is the most accurate for carry and ball speed both indoors and outdoors, it is handheld, easy to use, comparable price to other devices, and functions as a GPS on top of that. Even the best golf launch monitors on the market must be easy to use. There are accuracy chats displayed for each model tested. If available, please hit from a covered area . Mevo+ will do fine at the range, but you need at least 20 feet of space to use it indoors, The radar sits 7-8 feet behind ball and has to measure at least 10 feet of ball flight (ideally more than 10 feet). Matched To Your Swing. I am reading a lot of mixed reviews about your product regarding its ability to track hooks and slices while hitting indoors. To clarify, MLM works very accurately with pretty much any IOS device younger than an iPhone 7. If you go all out, youre upwards of $25k for a brand-new, fully featured unit. For a home simulator, its not even a close competition for getting stats on the range, I can see the appeal of Rhapsodo. Consider buying used if youre on a budget. Garmin G80 is not only a launch monitor but also a GPS device so you can get some numbers to your target and some data points. Did you have the GCquad reading the same shots as the radar models, or did you compare the data between different shots? However, in retrospect it was one of the best golf related purchases Ive ever made. I have the sc200. Ernest Sports ESB1 Not quite as robust as the others, the ESB1 gives you Ball Speed, Club Speed, Distance, Smash Factor, Spin Rate, and Launch Angle. I pulled the trigger on getting the SC200+ based on this article. Even if I spent the day playing a round of golf, in the evening Ill still go back into the garage and work on stuff I had problems with on the course. Doesnt make sense the winner doesnt measure spin AT ALL. A: Not all are as accurate as enterprise solutions like, Foresight and Trackman. What in your guys opinion would be the best value of the bunch? Furthermore, once you hit a shot on grass you have to pick up the unit and move it for the ball to be picked up. Based on your observations it looks like an intriguing value at least for full shots. My Skytrak is used outside 90% of the time so you review is misleading whe you state: CONS As an engineer, I was wondering the same thing. If your plan is to use a personal launch monitor to gain performance insights while banging limited flight, beat to hell, or generally inconsistent range balls, you're wasting both your time and money. Golf launch monitors have become ubiquitous with the pros. I said it last year and will continue to say it until it gets addressed but a HUGE con for Rapsodo continues to be the lack of an Android option. SkyTrak is the only camera-based system included in this test. My only comeback is if its not relatively accurate then what is your use for it? Practice with the ball you play (or at least one that's similar) so the data you collect is consistent and meaningful. It is made from aircraft aluminum and high-density polymer. Are they using completely different algorithms and hardware? The Skytrak performed well inside but when it was tested outside, it took three times longer to capture the data. Looking at the features chart, the Flightscopes and Skytrak should be tied for first in features. It is a little problematic the fact that is dependent on the iOS device you have, it is not supported on all device. Enterprise radar launch monitors like TrackMan and FlightScope X3 feature larger Doppler radars which are capable of tracking a golf ball over its entire flight. Im just here for the Rapsodo doesnt work with Android comments :). Thanks to its lightweight mechanism as it only weighs 12.5 kg (27.6 pounds). Copyright 2023. Cant give exact timeline but will be during 2021 season. I agree. First value is ESB1, second value is Flightscope Distance: 153 vs 151.6 (meters) Ball speed: 186 vs 182.8 (km/hour) I have also seen several reviews of it being used effectively outdoors and/or on the range too. The R10 is the top $500 unit that will give you club data and back spin. If youre looking for club head data, offline and dispersion numbers, you might want to look at the enterprise solutions like Foresight and Trackman. The best launch monitors for outdoor use are the SC300 Plus and the Rapsodo for under $500. Hi, I have personally owned several PLMs (2x Different SkyCaddies) and currently have a Skytrak. If youre a golfer who wants the most metrics and most accurate readings on the market, youre likely not going to be satisfied with a personal launch monitor. While camera-based systems cant measure the full flight of the golf ball, they typically provide more accurate axis tilt and spin measurements and are far more reliable in limited-flight scenarios. Didnt seem accurate. The Rapsodo was more than 90% accurate on all data sets, with the exception of spin. Learn how your comment data is processed. *note: The SC200, SC300, and SC300i can not capture training swings, just the SC200 Plus+. So best to understand what you CAN use them for rather than what you hope they can do. Enterprise solutions like Foresight and TrackMan are more accurate and provide more data points. I have the updated PRGR (HS-130A) that I used for Overspeed training. It needs an 11 to 12 feet distance to measure the shots accurately. Whether its long drive or a skills challenge, the Rapsodo has you covered. The Flightscope Mevo Plus performs well once again in 2021. Ummm.. what about weather considerations? I do think it has come a long way in the short time I've had it. I hate that it ranks so low compared to the other guys in this test-heavy environment, but at the same time it apparently provided 5 different metrics in the outdoor testing, and only 3 of the 8 managed to do that. A:Smash factor is a common club performance metric. It was also called out as one of the poorest units under 60 yards (are they all similarly bad?). Thanks for the comment. CECH-2501B or CECH-3001B? These gizmos might still need a few years to become more accurate and provide more data points, but theyre able to offer enough information to help you reasonably dial in your game, with your expectations managed. Outside not so much. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Im dissapointed with the results- sad face. Learn how your comment data is processed. Overall, the ESB1 seems to be on par with other launch monitors we've tested in this price range. I am asking to see how my range in california could handle the Skytrack. Personal Launch Monitors have improved dramatically, but still have some room to grow. Overall, the Swing Caddie SC300 is an excellent product owing to its unique features. The launch monitor is located on the ground and behind the ball, approximately at a distance of 1.20 m from the ball. money, time and performance. Several of the devices we tested provide this with varying degrees of accuracy. However another reply from Rapsodo in the amazon questions implies older versions of hardware dont work with a net? I think the real question is what the user wants to answer. As a result, I have to go to other sources for intel that relates specifically to indoor use relative to each unit. It can be safely recommended to get the best value for your money. Some of the golf launch monitors tested work better indoors while others work better or exclusively outdoors. We're here to help you find the perfect Personal Launch Monitor to fit your needs. I recently was fitted with GCquad and the numbers were the same. You will see this roll out gradually based on device as Android is used by a variety of manufacturers with different camera specs. Q: What data can I get from a personal golf launch monitor? My guess is that some of these calculations use estimates of ball compression and other factors that may, or may not, be accurate for my setup. #PowerToThePlayer. How is Rapsodos operation in 100 degree sunny weather? The SkyTrak allows you to upgrade and download golf courses to play virtual rounds. They are constantly upgrading the software and customer support is pretty good considering they are based in South Africa. The accuracy (expected dispersion) is something that the Voice Caddie and PRGR cant provide. its not even included in the top 3 which is ridiculous. How about if its drizzling or foggy with that wetness all around? Im not really using it to track distances all that much. I bought one this winter purely for indoor use with an excellent mat and a 1010 white hitting screen designed for golf from Daves. Most, if not all, launch monitors available today are powered by one of two technologies: radar or cameras. Q: Whats the difference between a personal launch monitor and an enterprise solution? Rapsodo is a perfect launch monitor to record your swing while getting some data. Dont expect to fit yourself with a consumer-grade unit. Ive owned or hit on several of these. The just released PRGR has better doppler radar and thus improved accuracy on ball (and club head) speed. I understand that it offers more data for you to go off which is advantageous. I just dont have the space (indoors or out) needed for any of the doppler based units to get a reading. Call Us 1 (888) 871-6110 Mon-Fri 9AM-5PM EST Home Golf Simulators Launch Monitors If you want enterprise-level accuracy and features (head data, for example), youre looking at $7,000-plus for a used Foresight GC2. Although it provides limited metrics, it's themost accurate unit we tested. The Rapsodo was more than 90 percent accurate on all data sets with the exception of spin. But really need shot shape and dispersion. Well be rolling them out on a running basis as they become ready for prime time. The extra money gets you the most data of any unit in the test. We started with a few iPhone models and will continue to add IOS devices over the next few weeks. We're here to help you find the perfect personal launch monitor to fit your needs. Ive looked at the SC200+ before and couldnt convince myself to pull the trigger because I wasnt sure about the accuracy. Just wanted to give some insight on the IOS comments. Why is the mevo+ less accurate than the mevo on 7i and Driver? For longer sessions, especially when using video features, battery drain can be an issue. Android is definitely coming we have no intention of ignoring 40-60% of the market depending on your country/location. for sure 2.5gb are not needed to be used only to keep the data of the shot and the reference to the copy of the video on the cloud storage ;-), Hi Steve- money, time and performance. Thx I feel like you came at this from the point of view of someone who tests golf gear for a living, and needs the data to do so appropriately..Thats not what I want one of these for. PGBR was excellent. If youre only going to hit a few dozen balls at a time, battery life may not be relevant. I cant do that and use the rapsodo. You can record your swing for an objective look at your technique. Is this a newer version? The metrics we consider when rating Personal Launch Monitors include Accuracy, Ease of Use, Portability, and Features. If youre going to use your launch monitor almost exclusively indoors, save your money for a SkyTrak. #PowerToThePlayer. How can you support what were doing at MyGolfSpy? We did test them with metal dots on the balls and the spin numbers get slightly better. And theyve got a grass area, ill hit off tees and the deck periodically.. Ill pick out clubs to hit exclusively if ive noticed an issue during a previous match, but otherwise its usually a healthy dose of SW, 9 iron, 5 iron, and driver. Until its open to everyone, I dont feel it should be included. I did test SkyTrak outside and after an hour of trying to capture data I gave up. If you're splitting time between indoor and outdoor use, consider FlightScope's Mevo or Mevo Plus. An upgrade from the Mevo, The Mevo Plus comes with more data metrics. Im interested in the PRGR as well. Other do try and factor in other items that impact carry distance like humidity, air pressure, temperature. It comes with a Doppler radar and an application on your phone. As for use outside, youre basically just using them for shot shape and start direction. Otherwise it would be a fantastic choice. If youre a fitter or teaching professional looking to leverage data, more than likely, youll need to look at the enterprise solutions. Rapsodo is a perfect launch monitor to record your swing while getting some data. Technology is developing rapidly, and personal launch monitors have improved over recent years.
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